Comments on: Working With The 1895 Census http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/2009/11/working-with-the-1895-census/ Tips, tricks and help in conducting Latvian ancestral research. Wed, 01 Sep 2010 02:03:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Inta http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/2009/11/working-with-the-1895-census/comment-page-1/#comment-28 Inta Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:03:15 +0000 http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/?p=54#comment-28 ITS gives back alot of good information, all for free. Up until I received their papers, I didn't even know the names of my father's parents. This information was huge in my geneology quest. ITS gives back alot of good information, all for free. Up until I received their papers, I didn’t even know the names of my father’s parents. This information was huge in my geneology quest.

]]> By: Chelli http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/2009/11/working-with-the-1895-census/comment-page-1/#comment-22 Chelli Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:26:30 +0000 http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/?p=54#comment-22 I would state last known news as "immigrated to Canada in 19.." Whatever year it was. Since the IRO shouldnt have much from after that... I can't stress enough how amazing these records were. They show each displaced persons camp my great grandfather and family were in, what he did for a living, who he worked for (US Army, IRO) which is especially nice for me to know, since much of my Latvian family is no longer around to answer for themselves... Feel free to email me any questions about it if you like, maybe we can help each other as we find more and more information :) It's not common to find another girl my age (I'm 23) as interested in Latvian genealogy as myself!!! I've been researching for almost 2 years now. chelli11@hotmail.com I would state last known news as “immigrated to Canada in 19..” Whatever year it was. Since the IRO shouldnt have much from after that…
I can’t stress enough how amazing these records were. They show each displaced persons camp my great grandfather and family were in, what he did for a living, who he worked for (US Army, IRO) which is especially nice for me to know, since much of my Latvian family is no longer around to answer for themselves…

Feel free to email me any questions about it if you like, maybe we can help each other as we find more and more information :) It’s not common to find another girl my age (I’m 23) as interested in Latvian genealogy as myself!!! I’ve been researching for almost 2 years now.

chelli11@hotmail.com

]]> By: Antra http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/2009/11/working-with-the-1895-census/comment-page-1/#comment-21 Antra Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:16:48 +0000 http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/?p=54#comment-21 When I first read about the ITS, it seemed like they were doing either tracing for people in modern war zones, or for people who were (or whose families were) in Nazi concentration camps/labour camps/death camps (which my family wasn't). But it seems like they do it for all DPs, regardless of origin/previous circumstances? And as to "last known residence/camp" or "last known news" - does that mean that if I want information on my grandparents' time in DP camps, that I give them the information I know about them in Canada (that is, recent information), or does "last known" in this case refer to "last known before displacement from original home occurred"? When I first read about the ITS, it seemed like they were doing either tracing for people in modern war zones, or for people who were (or whose families were) in Nazi concentration camps/labour camps/death camps (which my family wasn’t). But it seems like they do it for all DPs, regardless of origin/previous circumstances? And as to “last known residence/camp” or “last known news” – does that mean that if I want information on my grandparents’ time in DP camps, that I give them the information I know about them in Canada (that is, recent information), or does “last known” in this case refer to “last known before displacement from original home occurred”?

]]> By: Chelli http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/2009/11/working-with-the-1895-census/comment-page-1/#comment-20 Chelli Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:09:24 +0000 http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/?p=54#comment-20 None of my direct family members are in "These Names Accuse", but brothers of great-grandfathers are, and it bring it quite close to home! Also I'm attempting to trace all auxiliary relatives as well as direct ancestors :) The ITS is free :) it is paid for by the German government to help put back together some of the families that WWII tore apart. I definitely recommend contacting the ITS though, I didn't know they did anything EXCEPT WWII research! They have archived all Identity Cards that have pictures of the people attached, Displaced Persons cards (tracks families and persons through displaced persons camps), booklets that your family would have filled out in order to be sponsored to come to Canada... I was even sent a few questionnaires that were filled out by my family regarding their personal persecution and treatment in Latvia. It brought it all very close to home! What you provide them with is a person's full surname and given name, maiden name for women, parents names, if known, relation to yourself, last known residence/camp, last-known news... you fill these forms out online as well. It takes them time to respond to you, but it is well worth it :) None of my direct family members are in “These Names Accuse”, but brothers of great-grandfathers are, and it bring it quite close to home! Also I’m attempting to trace all auxiliary relatives as well as direct ancestors :)
The ITS is free :) it is paid for by the German government to help put back together some of the families that WWII tore apart.
I definitely recommend contacting the ITS though, I didn’t know they did anything EXCEPT WWII research! They have archived all Identity Cards that have pictures of the people attached, Displaced Persons cards (tracks families and persons through displaced persons camps), booklets that your family would have filled out in order to be sponsored to come to Canada… I was even sent a few questionnaires that were filled out by my family regarding their personal persecution and treatment in Latvia. It brought it all very close to home!
What you provide them with is a person’s full surname and given name, maiden name for women, parents names, if known, relation to yourself, last known residence/camp, last-known news… you fill these forms out online as well. It takes them time to respond to you, but it is well worth it :)

]]> By: Antra http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/2009/11/working-with-the-1895-census/comment-page-1/#comment-19 Antra Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:37:26 +0000 http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/?p=54#comment-19 Ahh, okay. I thought maybe you'd seen the 1935 and 1941 censuses online. Oh well, I'm going to be in Latvia in a few weeks and researching in the archives there, so no worries. Good to see These Names Accuse online! My family won't be in them though, since most managed to escape deportation/execution. The only one who didn't (one of my great-grandfathers), he isn't in there because names had to be submitted by family members, and my family didn't because they feared for reprisals against family still in Latvia (who had to live in hiding for awhile after the war). I had read about ITS, but hadn't seen that they do WW2-era research requests. Could be useful - I found some document collections that might have some information for me in them. How much did it cost for you? How much information could you provide to help them? Ahh, okay. I thought maybe you’d seen the 1935 and 1941 censuses online. Oh well, I’m going to be in Latvia in a few weeks and researching in the archives there, so no worries.

Good to see These Names Accuse online! My family won’t be in them though, since most managed to escape deportation/execution. The only one who didn’t (one of my great-grandfathers), he isn’t in there because names had to be submitted by family members, and my family didn’t because they feared for reprisals against family still in Latvia (who had to live in hiding for awhile after the war).

I had read about ITS, but hadn’t seen that they do WW2-era research requests. Could be useful – I found some document collections that might have some information for me in them. How much did it cost for you? How much information could you provide to help them?

]]> By: chelli http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/2009/11/working-with-the-1895-census/comment-page-1/#comment-17 chelli Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:16:15 +0000 http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/?p=54#comment-17 Antra, I've been lucky enough to have a friend in Riga who visits the archives to fill me in on the 1935 and 1941 censuses (sorry, didn't mean to get you excited that they were online!) Checking out the 1895 census.... very hard to read :( It's not easy, since I'm not 100% sure what parish/district my family's home would have been categorized in either... From one Latvian genealogy seeker to another, have you checked out these databases (that are online!) Here's a link to a list of people deported in 1941 by the Soviets... http://www.latvietislatvija.com/These_Names_Accuse/These_Names_Accuse.htm And a key to the numerical case number codes http://www.latvians.com/en/Reading/TheseNamesAccuse/ThNA-23-ListofNames.php And here's a large document that contains a list of Latvian National Partisans from the 1940's (of which my great grandfather was one :) http://www.president.lv/images/modules/items/PDF/item_1676_Vesturnieku_komisijas_raksti_21_sejums.pdf I don't know your family's whole story (maybe I'll find it on this site somewhere :)) but if they fled Latvia in the midst of WWII, have you tried contacting the Internation Tracing Service in Bad Arolsen, Germany? They're the Red Cross (refugee services) They provided me with 300+ pages of WWII-era information about my family and a LOT of answers. Antra,
I’ve been lucky enough to have a friend in Riga who visits the archives to fill me in on the 1935 and 1941 censuses (sorry, didn’t mean to get you excited that they were online!)
Checking out the 1895 census…. very hard to read :( It’s not easy, since I’m not 100% sure what parish/district my family’s home would have been categorized in either…

From one Latvian genealogy seeker to another, have you checked out these databases (that are online!)

Here’s a link to a list of people deported in 1941 by the Soviets…
http://www.latvietislatvija.com/These_Names_Accuse/These_Names_Accuse.htm

And a key to the numerical case number codes
http://www.latvians.com/en/Reading/TheseNamesAccuse/ThNA-23-ListofNames.php

And here’s a large document that contains a list of Latvian National Partisans from the 1940′s (of which my great grandfather was one :)

http://www.president.lv/images/modules/items/PDF/item_1676_Vesturnieku_komisijas_raksti_21_sejums.pdf

I don’t know your family’s whole story (maybe I’ll find it on this site somewhere :) ) but if they fled Latvia in the midst of WWII, have you tried contacting the Internation Tracing Service in Bad Arolsen, Germany? They’re the Red Cross (refugee services) They provided me with 300+ pages of WWII-era information about my family and a LOT of answers.

]]> By: Antra http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/2009/11/working-with-the-1895-census/comment-page-1/#comment-15 Antra Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:56:26 +0000 http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/?p=54#comment-15 Chelli, the 1895 Census can be viewed on LVVA's "Raduraksti" website (http://www.lvva-raduraksti.lv). Where have you seen the 1935 and 1941 censuses? I'm assuming you mean Latvian ones. I haven't seen them anywhere. Chelli, the 1895 Census can be viewed on LVVA’s “Raduraksti” website (http://www.lvva-raduraksti.lv). Where have you seen the 1935 and 1941 censuses? I’m assuming you mean Latvian ones. I haven’t seen them anywhere.

]]> By: chelli http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/2009/11/working-with-the-1895-census/comment-page-1/#comment-14 chelli Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:25:34 +0000 http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/?p=54#comment-14 How nice to find 2 people interested in Latvian genealogy! My Latvian family is mostly from Nikrace, near Saldus, Tukums and Talsi. Names are Akerfelds, Ziverts, Vinakmens and Ozols-Ozolins. I've been able to trace them back to my great-great grandparents, but still want to keep digging further! Can the 1895 census be viewed online anywhere?? I've seen 1935 and 1941, but not 1895... How nice to find 2 people interested in Latvian genealogy!
My Latvian family is mostly from Nikrace, near Saldus, Tukums and Talsi. Names are Akerfelds, Ziverts, Vinakmens and Ozols-Ozolins.
I’ve been able to trace them back to my great-great grandparents, but still want to keep digging further!
Can the 1895 census be viewed online anywhere?? I’ve seen 1935 and 1941, but not 1895…

]]> By: Lori E http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/2009/11/working-with-the-1895-census/comment-page-1/#comment-12 Lori E Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:34:28 +0000 http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/?p=54#comment-12 How nice to find someone interested in Latvian genealogy. My husbands maternal side is from Riga. The surnames in her line are Kariton, Brieger, Goeschel,Ahrens and Lindwurm.I have almost nothing on these families. I know Alexandre Kariton's (occupation was "graveurs" ?? his son, Alexandre Edouard Kariton (1893-1951)had a baby buggy factory at one point. and Louis Christoph Brieger was a farmer. (1852-1908) I don't know if you have ever come across any of these surnames in your research but would love to hear from you if you do. Good luck on your trip to Latvia and thanks for the information you have collected here. I am off to look at the census now. Lori E http://www.storiesofmyancestors.blogspot.com http://www.familytreesmaycontainnuts.com How nice to find someone interested in Latvian genealogy.
My husbands maternal side is from Riga. The surnames in her line are Kariton, Brieger, Goeschel,Ahrens and Lindwurm.I have almost nothing on these families.
I know Alexandre Kariton’s (occupation was “graveurs” ?? his son, Alexandre Edouard Kariton (1893-1951)had a baby buggy factory at one point. and Louis Christoph Brieger was a farmer. (1852-1908)
I don’t know if you have ever come across any of these surnames in your research but would love to hear from you if you do. Good luck on your trip to Latvia and thanks for the information you have collected here. I am off to look at the census now.
Lori E
http://www.storiesofmyancestors.blogspot.com
http://www.familytreesmaycontainnuts.com

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