Comments on: Working With The 1895 Census http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/2009/11/working-with-the-1895-census/ Tips, tricks and help in conducting Latvian ancestral research. Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:17:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Margret McPharlin http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/2009/11/working-with-the-1895-census/comment-page-1/#comment-23345 Margret McPharlin Fri, 09 Sep 2011 13:19:40 +0000 http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/?p=54#comment-23345 Hello from Australia, I am searching for any info on my fathers family. GRASIS.. my father is Juluis Grasis and his father was Janis, his mother Alliccia(maybe spelt wrong) both divorced? and remarried? my grandmother became Bruveris..and my grandfather had a new wife who had already 2 or 3 sons. they lived on a farm. He was carpenter by trade and served in the Russian army. My Aunt Veronica died in childbirth and had 2-3 childre 3 boys are Dainis and Janis…Dainis has a daughter and 2 marriages again names unknown the daughter is Zentina Veronica..I do not know my Aunts married name but her husband could be Milo Delin of similar. My father was born in Bauska and my Grandmother lived in Riga all her life and cleaned a school. Dainis and his daughter lived with her possibly till she died..can anyone help? cheers Margret Hello from Australia,

I am searching for any info on my fathers family. GRASIS.. my father is Juluis Grasis and his father was Janis, his mother Alliccia(maybe spelt wrong) both divorced? and remarried? my grandmother became Bruveris..and my grandfather had a new wife who had already 2 or 3 sons. they lived on a farm. He was carpenter by trade and served in the Russian army. My Aunt Veronica died in childbirth and had 2-3 childre 3 boys are Dainis and Janis…Dainis has a daughter and 2 marriages again names unknown the daughter is Zentina Veronica..I do not know my Aunts married name but her husband could be Milo Delin of similar. My father was born in Bauska and my Grandmother lived in Riga all her life and cleaned a school. Dainis and his daughter lived with her possibly till she died..can anyone help?
cheers Margret

]]> By: Margret McPharlin http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/2009/11/working-with-the-1895-census/comment-page-1/#comment-23342 Margret McPharlin Fri, 09 Sep 2011 13:15:09 +0000 http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/?p=54#comment-23342 Hello from Australia, I am searching for any info on my fathers family. GRASIS.. my father is Juluis Grasis and his father was Janis, his mother Alliccia(maybe spelt wrong) both divorced? and remarried? my grandmother became Bruveris..and my grandfather had a new wife who had already 2 or 3 sons. they lived on a farm. He was carpenter by trade and served in the Russian army. My Aunt Veronica died in childbirth and had 2-3 childre 3 boys are Dainis and Janis...Dainis has a daughter and 2 marriages again names unknown the daughter is Zentina Veronica..I do not know my Aunts married name but her husband could be Milo Delin of similar. My father was born in Bauska and my Grandmother lived in Riga all her life and cleaned a school. Dainis and his daughter lived with her possibly till she died..can anyone help? cheers Margret Hello from Australia,

I am searching for any info on my fathers family. GRASIS.. my father is Juluis Grasis and his father was Janis, his mother Alliccia(maybe spelt wrong) both divorced? and remarried? my grandmother became Bruveris..and my grandfather had a new wife who had already 2 or 3 sons. they lived on a farm. He was carpenter by trade and served in the Russian army. My Aunt Veronica died in childbirth and had 2-3 childre 3 boys are Dainis and Janis…Dainis has a daughter and 2 marriages again names unknown the daughter is Zentina Veronica..I do not know my Aunts married name but her husband could be Milo Delin of similar. My father was born in Bauska and my Grandmother lived in Riga all her life and cleaned a school. Dainis and his daughter lived with her possibly till she died..can anyone help?
cheers Margret

]]> By: G http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/2009/11/working-with-the-1895-census/comment-page-1/#comment-22191 G Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:18:55 +0000 http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/?p=54#comment-22191 Here you can contact about interpretation of Libau records: http://www.expertgenealogy.com/?x=genlatvia Here you can contact about interpretation of Libau records:

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]]> By: Robert Karath http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/2009/11/working-with-the-1895-census/comment-page-1/#comment-17444 Robert Karath Wed, 15 Jun 2011 06:29:27 +0000 http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/?p=54#comment-17444 Hi, I don't know if the is the correct place to post this, but I am looking for help in tracking down my grandfather's family in Libau. I have read through the Evangelical Lutheran records for St Annens parish and have several names and dates, but the records are both in German and Russian, which I don't understand. He was born Waldemar Johann Korath in Libau, September 26, 1889 (p291 of 465 of the parish records). It looks like his parents were Johann Julius Korath and Ilsa Kalnins. They were married in January 1886 in Libau (marriages p.295). There are several other names and places listed in the records which I can't read or understand the relationship. Also Amalie Lisbeth Korath born October 1886 (p 119 of 465) and Dorothea Elisabeth Korath born 1893 (p 177 of Libau Births for that year, in Russian). As far as I know, my grandfather was the only one who emigrated to the US, he may have had another brother and sister and he was confirmed at St Katherine's Church in St Petersburgh, Russia in 1905. Any help or guidance you could possibly give is greatly appreciated. Hi, I don’t know if the is the correct place to post this, but I am looking for help in tracking down my grandfather’s family in Libau. I have read through the Evangelical Lutheran records for St Annens parish and have several names and dates, but the records are both in German and Russian, which I don’t understand. He was born Waldemar Johann Korath in Libau, September 26, 1889 (p291 of 465 of the parish records). It looks like his parents were Johann Julius Korath and Ilsa Kalnins. They were married in January 1886 in Libau (marriages p.295). There are several other names and places listed in the records which I can’t read or understand the relationship. Also Amalie Lisbeth Korath born October 1886 (p 119 of 465) and Dorothea Elisabeth Korath born 1893 (p 177 of Libau Births for that year, in Russian). As far as I know, my grandfather was the only one who emigrated to the US, he may have had another brother and sister and he was confirmed at St Katherine’s Church in St Petersburgh, Russia in 1905.
Any help or guidance you could possibly give is greatly appreciated.

]]> By: Inta http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/2009/11/working-with-the-1895-census/comment-page-1/#comment-28 Inta Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:03:15 +0000 http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/?p=54#comment-28 ITS gives back alot of good information, all for free. Up until I received their papers, I didn't even know the names of my father's parents. This information was huge in my geneology quest. ITS gives back alot of good information, all for free. Up until I received their papers, I didn’t even know the names of my father’s parents. This information was huge in my geneology quest.

]]> By: Chelli http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/2009/11/working-with-the-1895-census/comment-page-1/#comment-22 Chelli Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:26:30 +0000 http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/?p=54#comment-22 I would state last known news as "immigrated to Canada in 19.." Whatever year it was. Since the IRO shouldnt have much from after that... I can't stress enough how amazing these records were. They show each displaced persons camp my great grandfather and family were in, what he did for a living, who he worked for (US Army, IRO) which is especially nice for me to know, since much of my Latvian family is no longer around to answer for themselves... Feel free to email me any questions about it if you like, maybe we can help each other as we find more and more information :) It's not common to find another girl my age (I'm 23) as interested in Latvian genealogy as myself!!! I've been researching for almost 2 years now. chelli11@hotmail.com I would state last known news as “immigrated to Canada in 19..” Whatever year it was. Since the IRO shouldnt have much from after that…
I can’t stress enough how amazing these records were. They show each displaced persons camp my great grandfather and family were in, what he did for a living, who he worked for (US Army, IRO) which is especially nice for me to know, since much of my Latvian family is no longer around to answer for themselves…

Feel free to email me any questions about it if you like, maybe we can help each other as we find more and more information :) It’s not common to find another girl my age (I’m 23) as interested in Latvian genealogy as myself!!! I’ve been researching for almost 2 years now.

chelli11@hotmail.com

]]> By: Antra http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/2009/11/working-with-the-1895-census/comment-page-1/#comment-21 Antra Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:16:48 +0000 http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/?p=54#comment-21 When I first read about the ITS, it seemed like they were doing either tracing for people in modern war zones, or for people who were (or whose families were) in Nazi concentration camps/labour camps/death camps (which my family wasn't). But it seems like they do it for all DPs, regardless of origin/previous circumstances? And as to "last known residence/camp" or "last known news" - does that mean that if I want information on my grandparents' time in DP camps, that I give them the information I know about them in Canada (that is, recent information), or does "last known" in this case refer to "last known before displacement from original home occurred"? When I first read about the ITS, it seemed like they were doing either tracing for people in modern war zones, or for people who were (or whose families were) in Nazi concentration camps/labour camps/death camps (which my family wasn’t). But it seems like they do it for all DPs, regardless of origin/previous circumstances? And as to “last known residence/camp” or “last known news” – does that mean that if I want information on my grandparents’ time in DP camps, that I give them the information I know about them in Canada (that is, recent information), or does “last known” in this case refer to “last known before displacement from original home occurred”?

]]> By: Chelli http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/2009/11/working-with-the-1895-census/comment-page-1/#comment-20 Chelli Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:09:24 +0000 http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/?p=54#comment-20 None of my direct family members are in "These Names Accuse", but brothers of great-grandfathers are, and it bring it quite close to home! Also I'm attempting to trace all auxiliary relatives as well as direct ancestors :) The ITS is free :) it is paid for by the German government to help put back together some of the families that WWII tore apart. I definitely recommend contacting the ITS though, I didn't know they did anything EXCEPT WWII research! They have archived all Identity Cards that have pictures of the people attached, Displaced Persons cards (tracks families and persons through displaced persons camps), booklets that your family would have filled out in order to be sponsored to come to Canada... I was even sent a few questionnaires that were filled out by my family regarding their personal persecution and treatment in Latvia. It brought it all very close to home! What you provide them with is a person's full surname and given name, maiden name for women, parents names, if known, relation to yourself, last known residence/camp, last-known news... you fill these forms out online as well. It takes them time to respond to you, but it is well worth it :) None of my direct family members are in “These Names Accuse”, but brothers of great-grandfathers are, and it bring it quite close to home! Also I’m attempting to trace all auxiliary relatives as well as direct ancestors :)
The ITS is free :) it is paid for by the German government to help put back together some of the families that WWII tore apart.
I definitely recommend contacting the ITS though, I didn’t know they did anything EXCEPT WWII research! They have archived all Identity Cards that have pictures of the people attached, Displaced Persons cards (tracks families and persons through displaced persons camps), booklets that your family would have filled out in order to be sponsored to come to Canada… I was even sent a few questionnaires that were filled out by my family regarding their personal persecution and treatment in Latvia. It brought it all very close to home!
What you provide them with is a person’s full surname and given name, maiden name for women, parents names, if known, relation to yourself, last known residence/camp, last-known news… you fill these forms out online as well. It takes them time to respond to you, but it is well worth it :)

]]> By: Antra http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/2009/11/working-with-the-1895-census/comment-page-1/#comment-19 Antra Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:37:26 +0000 http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/?p=54#comment-19 Ahh, okay. I thought maybe you'd seen the 1935 and 1941 censuses online. Oh well, I'm going to be in Latvia in a few weeks and researching in the archives there, so no worries. Good to see These Names Accuse online! My family won't be in them though, since most managed to escape deportation/execution. The only one who didn't (one of my great-grandfathers), he isn't in there because names had to be submitted by family members, and my family didn't because they feared for reprisals against family still in Latvia (who had to live in hiding for awhile after the war). I had read about ITS, but hadn't seen that they do WW2-era research requests. Could be useful - I found some document collections that might have some information for me in them. How much did it cost for you? How much information could you provide to help them? Ahh, okay. I thought maybe you’d seen the 1935 and 1941 censuses online. Oh well, I’m going to be in Latvia in a few weeks and researching in the archives there, so no worries.

Good to see These Names Accuse online! My family won’t be in them though, since most managed to escape deportation/execution. The only one who didn’t (one of my great-grandfathers), he isn’t in there because names had to be submitted by family members, and my family didn’t because they feared for reprisals against family still in Latvia (who had to live in hiding for awhile after the war).

I had read about ITS, but hadn’t seen that they do WW2-era research requests. Could be useful – I found some document collections that might have some information for me in them. How much did it cost for you? How much information could you provide to help them?

]]> By: chelli http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/2009/11/working-with-the-1895-census/comment-page-1/#comment-17 chelli Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:16:15 +0000 http://www.celmina.com/genealogy/?p=54#comment-17 Antra, I've been lucky enough to have a friend in Riga who visits the archives to fill me in on the 1935 and 1941 censuses (sorry, didn't mean to get you excited that they were online!) Checking out the 1895 census.... very hard to read :( It's not easy, since I'm not 100% sure what parish/district my family's home would have been categorized in either... From one Latvian genealogy seeker to another, have you checked out these databases (that are online!) Here's a link to a list of people deported in 1941 by the Soviets... http://www.latvietislatvija.com/These_Names_Accuse/These_Names_Accuse.htm And a key to the numerical case number codes http://www.latvians.com/en/Reading/TheseNamesAccuse/ThNA-23-ListofNames.php And here's a large document that contains a list of Latvian National Partisans from the 1940's (of which my great grandfather was one :) http://www.president.lv/images/modules/items/PDF/item_1676_Vesturnieku_komisijas_raksti_21_sejums.pdf I don't know your family's whole story (maybe I'll find it on this site somewhere :)) but if they fled Latvia in the midst of WWII, have you tried contacting the Internation Tracing Service in Bad Arolsen, Germany? They're the Red Cross (refugee services) They provided me with 300+ pages of WWII-era information about my family and a LOT of answers. Antra,
I’ve been lucky enough to have a friend in Riga who visits the archives to fill me in on the 1935 and 1941 censuses (sorry, didn’t mean to get you excited that they were online!)
Checking out the 1895 census…. very hard to read :( It’s not easy, since I’m not 100% sure what parish/district my family’s home would have been categorized in either…

From one Latvian genealogy seeker to another, have you checked out these databases (that are online!)

Here’s a link to a list of people deported in 1941 by the Soviets…
http://www.latvietislatvija.com/These_Names_Accuse/These_Names_Accuse.htm

And a key to the numerical case number codes
http://www.latvians.com/en/Reading/TheseNamesAccuse/ThNA-23-ListofNames.php

And here’s a large document that contains a list of Latvian National Partisans from the 1940′s (of which my great grandfather was one :)

http://www.president.lv/images/modules/items/PDF/item_1676_Vesturnieku_komisijas_raksti_21_sejums.pdf

I don’t know your family’s whole story (maybe I’ll find it on this site somewhere :) ) but if they fled Latvia in the midst of WWII, have you tried contacting the Internation Tracing Service in Bad Arolsen, Germany? They’re the Red Cross (refugee services) They provided me with 300+ pages of WWII-era information about my family and a LOT of answers.

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